Mr. Sparkle How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. feat fan He later came back to play for the Padres. Lolich was a fine pitcher. He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. Mickey Lolich did not want to come to the Mets. June 30, 2019 Lolich was a fine pitcher. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. He was overweight and kind of babyfaced but I don't remember anyone being more focused or a battler. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. Did you now the school in Gingellville was first named Coolidge School after then U.S. President Calvin Coolidge? Anybody remember how Rusty looked those last few years in New York? January 12, 2011 I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. Doug S. April 20, 2002 He also hit a home run in Game Two of the Series and outpitched Denny "31 Win" McClain in the Series. I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. May 7, 2013 According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. November 3, 2006 October 19, 2011 June 30, 2019 Mr. Sparkle In this World Series, Lolich pitched three complete games and allowed only five runs an ERA of 1.67. Its not Rustys fault the Tigers traded for hitting when they already had hitting. Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. (Note: others featured in that section were the Knicks' Toby Knight and his wife and Rangers enforcer Nick Fotiu and his very leggy wife and kids)I also had the unfortunate opportunity to score the game against the Phillies where pitcher Larry Christensen belted TWO home runs off Lolich on a hot Sunday afternoon. HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. feat fan support. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. 170 lbs.? December 13, 2007 That's more realistic but generous, I think! But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. Raymond Malcuit April 30, 2009 Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. Maybe Rusty was not in his prime when the Tigers got him, but the man could still swing the bat. This has never happened before? June 30, 2019 The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. August 11, 2015 C'mon John, the Mets did the Tigers a huge favor by taking this washed-up pitcher off their hands and giving them a great hitter like Rusty. But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. or Bruce Kison. July 15, 2016 Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. In San Diego they had a fan club for him called the Mickey Lolich Gut Club. Jamey Bumbalo August 7, 2018 Mickey was featured riding his motorcyle. Joe Figliola This has never happened before? Mickey Lolich is a famous Baseball Player who has a net worth of $1-5 million. He pitched very good ball for you. April 23, 2003 Other than some one saying he ate donuts rather than come back to NY, does anyone know the real reason why he didn't pitch in 77? 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. Staub was one of our heroes and for the Mets to trade him for a guy that owned and operated (and apparently ate often at) donut shops in the off season was gut wrenching. But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? feat fan As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby. Mickey Lolich was a great pitcher in the American League. In this World Series, Lolich pitched three complete games and allowed only five runs an ERA of 1.67. An E.R.A of 3.22 in the mid 70's was still pretty respectable. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. October 19, 2011 Mickey was a fantastic pitcher for the Tigers. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. 6'1", 170???? The point is he made a bad team worse. Mickey liked his doughnuts. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. Mike B He led the Tigers to their second last-place finish in their 76-year history. (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. Mickey pitched to a poor 8-13 record but he also had a 3.22 ERA which is pretty damn good. Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. How much they adore them! LA-Mets August 7, 2002 Mickey was born on September 12, 1940 in Portland, OR. He wanted to finish out his career in Detroit, where he had some great years (the photo of him jumping on Bill Freehan after the final out in the 1968 World Series is a classic). April 6, 2012 (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. Bob P (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. Dianna Jeanneh Jones August 11, 2015 Mickey is originated from United States. This has never happened before? As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. All of you New Yorkers are forgetting how the Tigers fared in this deal of Staub/Lolich. Baseball burnt him out. Randy Tate How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. 170 lbs.? Jim Snedeker January 12, 2011 But I think the final verdict has to be that neither team would have fared much differently with or without the Lolich/Staub trade. HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. He lost 39 games his last two seasons in Detroit, with an obese ERA both years. August 7, 2018 Pitchers have good days and then once in a while they hang a curve? Jay Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. January 12, 2011 The point is he made a bad team worse. November 19, 2002 Although I'd rather have a hitter like Rusty, you have to admit, Mickey Lolich's ERA was a very respectable 3.22. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. Bob The fact that he pitched four consecutive 300+ inning years; that's like 10 years in today's game. We felt the same way when the Mets traded away Seaver and got back mediocre players for him. Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. The point is he made a bad team worse. John, we know the condition the team was in when Lolich got here. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! August 11, 2015 All of you New Yorkers are forgetting how the Tigers fared in this deal of Staub/Lolich. Its not Rustys fault the Tigers traded for hitting when they already had hitting. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. Believe me if he pitched like the ace he was in Detroit no one here would have been so quick to criticize the trade. April 23, 2003 March 5, 2006 I remember Lolich pitching some good ball for the Mets with absolutely NO run support. But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. You have to remember that any ERA of 3.00 and over back in the 1970's was not a good stat. I recall one year where he had 121 RBI's. Mickey Lolich so despised the Mets experience that he sat home and ate donuts for a year rather than play again in New York. August 7, 2018 McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. He was a big (emphasis: BIG) bust in New York. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! Gary from Chesapeake Ok, the height is correct but make no mistake,a consistent, determined winner, Mickey Lolich was in the spotlight throughout his career. Lolich may have gone 8-13 in 1976 but Koosman did even worse the next two years (1977 and 1978). December 13, 2007 Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. Too bad we waited until '76 to bring him in, although his numbers indicated a lack of run support. Some archaeologists believe there are ancient Hopewell Indian Burial Mounds near Bald Mountain. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. Still, he seemed nettled that bygone heroes sit nearer to the pigeons than the field. As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. That's more realistic but generous, I think! July 15, 2016 I wish the Mets had a pitcher today with a 3.22 ERA. He lost 39 games his last two seasons in Detroit, with an obese ERA both years. December 8, 2006 April 6, 2012 C'mon John, the Mets did the Tigers a huge favor by taking this washed-up pitcher off their hands and giving them a great hitter like Rusty. Mr. Sparkle April 27, 2013 bogeyman But then Vail got hurt, and Kranepool and the aging Torre got more playing time.The better plan was to keep Staub, and let Milner and Vail fight for a spot. Cut him some slack. (thankfully returning in '81). Lolich hit a home run in the World Series- and so what does that mean, that he was a great hitter? Not to say the trade wasn't awful - but come on! Ramblin' Pete I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. All of you New Yorkers are forgetting how the Tigers fared in this deal of Staub/Lolich. This has never happened before? End of Line Raymond Malcuit Jr. March 22, 2005 Lolich may be a legend in Detroit based on his 1968 World Series performance, but he was at the end of his career by 1976. He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. Raymond Malcuit Jr. As Sonny Jurgenson once said "you don't throw the ball with your stomach." Floyd operated the gas station on that corner. I looked him up in The Sports Encyclopedia 2002 and they have 6' and 210 lbs. The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. Bob End of Line His unbroken records are 2,679 strikeouts, 39 shutouts, 459 games started, 329 home runs allowed, and 10,000 doughnuts made! October 2, 2005 Man, he was a big one. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. As for all the innings Lolich pitched in Detroit, in today's game 300 innings is comparable to two full seasons, what with pitch counts and constantly babying starting pitchers. I don't know, I'm not a Mets expert. December 20, 2019 Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. Did you boo him or make fun out of him? Well, I never realized that Rusty Staub was such a favorite in New York, beside the old Tigers announcer George Kell always making a fuss over Rusty Staub's New York restaurant. Lolich may have been a great pitcher once, but by 1976 he was a has-been. As somebody mentioned previously, this is really all Mike Vail's fault. senor ortiz He had terrific stuff. Pitchers have good days and then once in a while they hang a curve? But this one defied all logic from the beginning. Pitchers have good days and then once in a while they hang a curve? He had terrific stuff. December 20, 2019 Mickey was finished and Rusty still had about 8-10 years left, even though the last couple were solely as a pinch hitter. November 10, 2002 Shickhaus Franks Ramblin' Pete C'mon John, the Mets did the Tigers a huge favor by taking this washed-up pitcher off their hands and giving them a great hitter like Rusty. Stu Baron Raymond Malcuit Jr. Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. In my opinion, there are only three candidates for worst trade in Mets history:1) Staub for Lolich 2) the Ryan trade 3) the Seaver tradeI believe the Seaver trade was the worst, for obvious reasons. Lolich was a newcomer that was a big loser, and he reminded us of how stupid the Mets management was for always going after fading superstars. Lolich went down in baseball lore by registering three complete game victories and securing the Most . An E.R.A of 3.22 in the mid 70's was still pretty respectable. Rusty played another decade. Mickey pitched to a poor 8-13 record but he also had a 3.22 ERA which is pretty damn good. Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. mets After the shooting he served guard duty at the White House. Staub a great fielder with a great arm? Ok, the height is correct but make no mistake,a consistent, determined winner, Mickey Lolich was in the spotlight throughout his career. Lolich was a good pitcher in his prime - he won 3 games in the '68 Series vs. the Cardinals, including Game 7. August 7, 2018 They did not let him pitch the way he wanted. He was a big (emphasis: BIG) bust in New York. Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. God bless him wherever he is and good luck! Feat Fan Other than some one saying he ate donuts rather than come back to NY, does anyone know the real reason why he didn't pitch in 77? Anybody remember how Rusty looked those last few years in New York? Did you boo him or make fun out of him? Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the So he went from being the long-time Tiger Ace (and best Tiger- the 1968 World Series was won by him- and also almost the 1972 Playoffs) to just a nobody for New York- can you blame him for this back-stabbing trade by Tiger management? I remember Lolich pitching some good ball for the Mets with absolutely NO run support. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! Max Power In this World Series, Lolich pitched three complete games and allowed only five runs an ERA of 1.67. In one of his best games as a Met, hefty lefty Lolich (no doubt the prototype for David Wells), tossed 8 innings, allowing 8 hits and 2 walks while striking out 4, the only run scoring on a fourth-inning groundout by a young Dave Parker.Alas, with the Mets historically typical poor run support, Lolich left, trailing 1-0, for pinch hitter Mike Phillips, who fanned for the 2nd out of the ninth, before singles by Ed Kranepool (batting for Leon Brown) and Bruce Boisclair and a walk to John Milner loaded the bases for Joe Torre. November 12, 2006 Lolich was a good pitcher in his prime - he won 3 games in the '68 Series vs. the Cardinals, including Game 7. I had never heard my mother get so angry at a Mets player. He later resurfaced with the Padres. Ken Akerman February 28, 2003 September 29, 2007 As somebody mentioned previously, this is really all Mike Vail's fault. support. Then they all got old and the team slid into rebuilding- different than the Mets? Lolich was still productive but he was never accepted in New York because of whom he was traded for. Man, those pitches were big ones. by Tom Gage (Author), Mickey Lolich (Author), Jim Leyland (Foreword) 121 ratings Kindle $12.99 Read with Our Free App Paperback $13.99 29 Used from $8.66 20 New from $13.66 The 1968 World Series remains one of the most iconic in major league history. Another guy who didn't get enough run support, and - yes - he ended up being blamed for the Staub trade rather than Grant himself. feat fan Featuring Bob Gibson in MVP form, Al Kaline, and Mickey Lolich, it was baseball at its best. September 24, 2005 July 31, 2002 December 13, 2007 I don't know, I'm not a Mets expert. Rusty played another decade. March 5, 2006 He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. I remember that the Daily News at the time would have a one-page section on Sunday that showed some of the athletes with their families away from the ballpark. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. Pitchers have good days and then once in a while they hang a curve? Near Mint - 7. That's more realistic but generous, I think! Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the December 24, 2001 Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. Jamey Bumbalo snook bob saunders Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. Mickey Lolich so despised the Mets experience that he sat home and ate donuts for a year rather than play again in New York. Another guy who didn't get enough run support, and - yes - he ended up being blamed for the Staub trade rather than Grant himself. Check out our mickey lolich selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our shops. He also hit a home run in Game Two of the Series and outpitched Denny "31 Win" McClain in the Series. April 30, 2009 =Chuck= The fact that he pitched four consecutive 300+ inning years; that's like 10 years in today's game. But then Vail got hurt, and Kranepool and the aging Torre got more playing time.The better plan was to keep Staub, and let Milner and Vail fight for a spot. They did not let him pitch the way he wanted. As for all the innings Lolich pitched in Detroit, in today's game 300 innings is comparable to two full seasons, what with pitch counts and constantly babying starting pitchers. But I think the final verdict has to be that neither team would have fared much differently with or without the Lolich/Staub trade. Peter So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. December 13, 2007 Feat Fan We are going all the way!" (Note: others featured in that section were the Knicks' Toby Knight and his wife and Rangers enforcer Nick Fotiu and his very leggy wife and kids)I also had the unfortunate opportunity to score the game against the Phillies where pitcher Larry Christensen belted TWO home runs off Lolich on a hot Sunday afternoon. His era of 3.22 is only .09% more than 20-game winner Carlton for the Phils. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. Raymond Malcuit Jr. Laura15yearoldmodel Several double-decker boats offered lake excursions replete with bands and a dance floor on the upper deck. October 13, 2008 =Chuck= The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. (thankfully returning in '81). But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. Cut him some slack. Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. Mickey liked his doughnuts. (thankfully returning in '81). The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. It would appear that the one party who was jobbed in the deal was Lolich himself. 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